tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4923387789611443880.post7784576844756792127..comments2023-04-06T02:07:13.538-07:00Comments on Kristen Pelfrey Writes: Vexed to Nightmare. Writing Standard 9WS1.0.Kristen Pelfreyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03446593300584488022noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4923387789611443880.post-14393130179188729692012-04-25T18:28:29.653-07:002012-04-25T18:28:29.653-07:00So...let's just test new drivers on their know...So...let's just test new drivers on their knowledge of driving, but without seeing if they can actually <i>drive</i>.<br /><br />Hey...maybe we can apply the same thinking to airline pilots!Botanisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12098709722475364465noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4923387789611443880.post-21133165904556853702012-04-25T16:01:22.985-07:002012-04-25T16:01:22.985-07:00Hi K.D.
Thanks for the comment. It is ironic that ...Hi K.D.<br />Thanks for the comment. It is ironic that so much of what we do during the school day, if we are doing it correctly, does not get addressed at all by standardized testing.Kristen Pelfreyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03446593300584488022noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4923387789611443880.post-50771358190707761222012-04-25T15:58:39.068-07:002012-04-25T15:58:39.068-07:00You are right, Andrew. Assessing writing is expens...You are right, Andrew. Assessing writing is expensive. The state of CA had a solid writing assessment in the 80's. Not great, but a far sight better than what we have now. And yes, it was time consuming and expensive. I was a reader and I spent three or four days reading and assessing essays. Three people scored each one. I saved the state money by staying with my aunt, and I got paid not for the Thursday-Friday,becuase I would have been teaching, but for the Saturday/Sunday, which I thought was sensible and fair. The process was rigorous and had its own amount of human error, but it was HUMAN error. And the kids wrote. I liked that their ideas mattered, and their thinking.<br />As things are now, ideas and thinking don't matter.<br />I hope your kids have some good books to read, at least.<br />Thanks, as always, for stopping by.Kristen Pelfreyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03446593300584488022noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4923387789611443880.post-1564776291751514542012-04-25T14:28:45.823-07:002012-04-25T14:28:45.823-07:00I'm torn on this one. I understand why they do...I'm torn on this one. I understand why they don't have actual writing on most of the tests:<br />1. They take too long to score.<br />2. They have to have someone read each one, so they take too long to score.<br />3. The handwriting can be very difficult to understand, so they take even longer to read, so they take too long to score.<br />4. Writing samples lack a strong objective quality, so they are difficult to score.<br />5. Student writing can actually be beyond the ability of the people scoring the tests for them to be able to score them accurately. That means that each writing sample would need to be scored by multiple people, so we end up at #1 again.<br /><br />I understand these things, but I do not like them. I think it's wrong. The only real way to change this is to make education enough of a priority to pay teachers and staff enough to make it worth their while to make sure it's all happening as it should happen. <br /><br />My kids are in the middle of STAR testing, right now.Andrew Leonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13964775673414653644noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4923387789611443880.post-88037309846982031342012-04-25T06:25:54.455-07:002012-04-25T06:25:54.455-07:00Yeah. I am thinking my son would not do well with ...Yeah. I am thinking my son would not do well with this. Great post.<br /><br />http://kdstormclutteredmind.blogspot.com/Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16732006064321712054noreply@blogger.com